", "What is dispensationalism? David, once again you are making assertions that do not stand scrutiny. G White I am really sorry to read your last reply. As I trust that you would not deliberately bear false witness against me, can I ask that, in future, you read any comment very carefully before making such serious accusations? This is a really long post that deals almost exclusively, unfortunately, with secondary issues (church size, communications gifts, me focus, salary, wealth, size of house, and more) and thereby obscures the central and clarifying point of Furticks ministry. And it is culturally not relevant to us at all! I simply stated that the book on my Amazon feed was priced at 30 and I was not going to pay that. John Fullerton MacArthur Jr. (born June 19, 1939) is an American Protestant pastor and author known for his internationally syndicated Christian teaching radio and television program Grace to You. From 20052015, MacArthur made about $3.4 million in compensation from GTY and TMUS, for an average of about $320,000/year. Really? I want you to know that I am not doing this for your sake, declares the Sovereign Lord. Here is Kate Shellnut: Last year, Hohn Cho concluded Grace Community Church had made a mistake. 2. I'm a bank robber."[41]. by RELEVANT. 1) I did not come on to your blog and say that Matt Chandler was not a good example of how the gospel should be lived. 4) Your last post just uses ad hom and tries to dodge justifying your original statement about Chandler by attacking me and what I have said, whilst giving not one concrete example. The great thing about the Village Church is that they recognised that they had not handled it well and apologised. I have no idea if you are particularly legalistic or not but the type of comments you were making, most certainly are. | Screenshot: YouTube/Grace to You Prominent pastor and theologian John MacArthur has come under fire after a video resurfaced of him taking issue with the idea of "religious freedom," with some Christian speakers debating whether his comments were taken out of context. [27][28][29], MacArthur describes himself as a "leaky dispensationalist. Its not loving, judgemental, take the beam out of your own eye, it aint wrong to be rich, youre just jealous, hypocrite. Drawn from over fifty years of intense Bible study and regular expository teaching, John MacArthur's verse-by-verse study notes, book introductions, and articles display an unwavering commitment to interpretive precisionwith the goal of making God known through His Word. Your other remarks continue to be provocative, misleading and snide and I wont grace them with a reply, other than to say that I have no need to retract any of my remarks, for the reasons already explained to you. As for your other points, Matt Chandlers church eventually acted only after a number of Christian magazines and websites had highlighted their initial inaction. Earlier this year his church was embroiled in a scandal over their handling of a child sexual abuse case. I d not think there is any man alive especially a young man who could cope with this degree of adulation and not have his head explode with pride. John MacArthur, the pastor of California's Grace Community Church, delivers a sermon to his congregation, January 2021. And now I have to go and read his recommended book I hope its not as bad as the reviews suggest! 1) There is only One only speaks the truth and it aint Steven Furtick. Elevation began as a Southern Baptist church in Charlotte, North Carolina in 2006. ck. Fox News Flash top headlines are here. I did read your comments. It is the Bible watered down by a mixture of Waltonesque homespun wisdom, pop psychology, stand up comedy and an unhealthy doze of how to missiology. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbfoO6hMSLc. Hell is not something to be used as a curse word it is real. Los Angeles County had sued the church and its pastor, John MacArthur, last August after officials said he had he opened the church and held a large indoor worship service with unmasked attendees . Opinion Page Brooks and David Bumgardner pokmon the series xyz. The remarks immediately following that statement seem to suggest that you are and illustrate the way in which you denigrate those with whom you disagree. [16][17], Central to MacArthur's theology is a very high view of scripture (the 66 books of the Protestant Bible). Now of course the labourer is worthy of his hire, and it is not a sin to be rich. (Genaro Molina / Los Angeles Times via Getty Images), Even as the pastor was sick, the church elder remained upbeat, adding, "Its pretty pretty amazing we have guys with sermons in their Bibles wherever you go and so Mikes going to be here.". If I was a young Christian I know I could have easily been swept along with this stuff it seems such an attractive message, and he is such an attractive man. 5) Yes the legalism one still stands. God is everywhereeven in the news. All rights reserved. [19] He is one of the most prominent voices in American Christianity against the continuationist beliefs of Pentecostalism and the Charismatic Movement, which assert that God continues to confer sign gifts today. I have a suspicion that much of the health and wealth teaching which is plaguing much of the church in Africa, Asia and South America is primarily an export from the US, with perhaps a little help from Europe, (all in the name of spreading the gospel). That is just nuts. I was not picking on one church: you offered Matt Chandler as an example of how mega churches get it right and I was replying to that by urging caution. However, I was somewhat alarmed by the endorsement of Matt Chandler as a good example of how the gospel should be preached and lived. John MacArthur is the pastor-teacher of Grace Community Church, as well as an author, conference speaker, chancellor of The Master's University and Seminary, and featured teacher with the Grace to You media ministry. So I was pleased to see the topic addressed here, particularly as there is another story breaking about Mr Furtick in North Carolina even as I write this. Stephen Furtick is his own brand and it seems it is a brand that sells well and pays well. http://religionnews.com/2016/05/11/why-pastor-steven-furtick-skirts-scandalous-questions/. As it happens I was sent this video by someone who was praising it.it is more like a political rally (complete with clapping) than a Christian sermon the misuse of Scripture about borders is bad enough but the approving citation of Donald Trump Is it time to start bombing the you know what out of ISIS (that is a biblical response) was appalling. So Mike Riccardi is going to be answering the call," a Grace Community Church elder announced on Sunday, according to Christian website Protestia. It was not an accusation, nor an attack. Matt. I kind of dreaded this type of response. I am intrigued as to why you think my challenge to the claim is disgraceful and totally unwarranted, but you dont think the claim itself is? They do things right. Im afraid I have had more than enough of this kind of depressing legalism and self-righteousness pride(and before you jump in yes I admit I can all too easily be the same).. At the risk of over-blogging (I dont want to be a bore), have you seen this just the introduction. This has become an increasing generational divide, where self help and selfishness mixed with weird legalism has been manufactured, packaged, and sold as faith. Chandler, a Reformed evangelical pastor, spoke as a guest speaker at Elevation last Friday, the third night of the Code Orange Revival. John Fullerton MacArthur Jr. (born June 19, 1939) is an American pastor and author known for his internationally syndicated radio program Grace to You. From 1964 to 1966, MacArthur was hired by his father as associate pastor at the Harry MacArthur Memorial Bible Church (now Calvary Bible Church in Burbank, California), which his father Jack had planted and named after his own father. The entire message was based around how God can meet all MY needs. Just a couple of verses from Ezekiel (which I am currently reading), the context being God restoring his people: More here: https://mrayton.wordpress.com/tag/john-macarthur/, Thanks very helpfulalthough I think that the money and the me focus are a key part of the false teaching. Are you happy with its $130 million campus rebuilding campaign? 2) I challenge you to provide some evidence for that statement and question whether you were just against mega churches per se. You rightly speak out against the Scott McKennas of this world but you seem to have a blind spot where certain pastors are concerned. Opinion Preston Clegg. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Our statement: pic.twitter.com/Rin5W7eA8x, Jenna Ellis (@JennaEllisEsq) August 31, 2021. See what mine own hands have wrought. So it would be a bit premature to throw them on a bonfire another example of your sly prose which was unwarranted. And after 63 years of sacrificial kindness to our city, to be repeatedly threatened with court-ordered efforts to shut Grace Community Church down when no one is sick reveals an inexplicable preference for a mostly harmless virus over the life-enriching and necessary fellowship of the church., As for MacArthurs own battle against COVID-19, the 82-year-old pastor was absent from the pulpit on Dec. 27, 2020. Have mercy! A point you also mentioned. Despite the blurb you are not changing the world. Help us continue to be a voice for truth in the media by supporting CBN News for as little as $1. In October 2013, his church hosted a conference called "Strange Fire" to mark the launch of a book of the same name. As for ES Williams book yes I have heard of it and read several reviews -Im afraid I wont be spending the 30 on a book which just seems to want to attack and tar everyone with the same brush. [1] He has been the pastor of Grace Community Church, a non-denominational church in Sun Valley, California since February 9, 1969. He went on to say, "I understand that Im a fifth cousin, and so its quite a distance but nonetheless we are related. I replied tongue in cheek and its unfortunate my smiley emo didnt indicate that. For the first time, John MacArthur publicly admitted Sunday that COVID-19 infections spread through his Southern California congregation last winter, noting he and his wife fell ill to the virus in December. Why not just simply deal with the facts, and leave the name calling aside? MacArthur, 83, was preaching Sunday service earlier this week when he reportedly said he felt ill. In 1989, after some criticism, he defended his views in a plenary session of the annual convention of the Independent Fundamental Churches of America (IFCA). The church that is spending $130 million on redoing its downtown campus? When people are being led astray genuine believers must stand up challenge and expose. John Fullerton MacArthur Jr. (born June 19, 1939) is an American Protestant pastor and author known for his internationally syndicated Christian teaching radio and television program Grace to You. Can I suggest a little more humility? This was sourced through interviews with ex-Grace Community Church Elder Hohn Cho. [48][49], In February 2023 Christianity Today[50] published multiple instances of MacArthur's Grace Community church advising woman to stay with sexually and physically abusive husbands. Do you still endorse it? I'm a bank robber. Find a Church . As for his preaching, we will disagree. Legal Statement. as there are with me. As for Southern Baptists liking Donald Trump, its almost as bad as you liking Scottish Nationalism. Opinion Mark Wingfield. Their influence has been growing and recently . It can only harm true Gospel work, and promote worldliness in the churches. And if you want classic legalism try this Truly converted young believers have an inborn instinct to turn away from their previous worldly music and dress styles. Your endorsement of Williams book which I have now read is indicative of that. I find this very revealing. And if you do wish to engage here, I would find it helpful if you answered my questions and stick to the point otherwise such threads just become a string of accusations. But, thank God, I have been able to study the bible for 50 years and, although I acknowledge that I have probably only scratched the surface of the riches of His grace, I do not recognise Furticks message as balanced and biblical. MacArthur responded "unqualified" and proceeded to argue that Furtick, pastor of Elevation Church, was not qualified, by Biblical standards, to be a pastor. Elevation Church were accused of getting volunteers to come forward during the spontaneous baptism services, in order to encourage others to get up out of their seats. They are often more concerned about whether they like the music than they are about whether they are hearing the truth. Despite the considerable influence that they all had, they chose instead to publically endorse him. To be really honest, I find it very difficult to muster up any Christian love for you when you respond to people in this way, though I do recognise that this is something I need Gods help with and forgiveness for. Were deeply grateful for that. But to me that is clear what it is. Its also a nasty wee trick to complain of someone remarks as being provocative, misleading and snide. Conclusion: And now I wait. Even though it was only a couple of pounds I regret wasting the money. John Fea | February 10, 2023 1 Comment. [20] The event featured a number of speakers who argued for cessationist theology and strongly critiqued the Charismatic Movement. Im afraid that you are talking about something you do not really know about and picking on one particular church why? 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